24
May
11

Pakistan Wants More Orions

The Pakistani government has requested that the United States replace two P-3C Orion aircraft lost during a terrorist attack on their base. Lovely.

Muhammad Saleh Zaafi,  writing for TheNews reports that

Pakistan will ask the United States to supply it two additional PC-3 Orion planes for its Navy to make up the deficiency of the loss of two planes which were destroyed by the terrorists on Sunday evening at Mehran Air Base Karachi in an act of terrorism.

Pakistan being an ally of the US in the so-called war on terrorism reserves the right for making such demand. The Defence Committee of the Cabinet (DCC) that will discuss various aspects of the matter in its meeting on Wednesday could take a position about the demand.

Yeah… they use that word “ally”. I don’t think they understand that word in the way that WE mean it.  Note the use of the “so-called war on terrorism” bit.  Personally, I’d just be happy if they’d make up their mind as to which side they intend to support.  Pakistan’s support to date is a lot like having your girl friend say she wants to date other guys while still living under your roof and being supported by you.

Pakistan’s plea has strong backing in view of the act of terrorism that caused the destruction of the two planes. Pakistan Naval Aviation is an important arm of the Pakistan Navy and assists in the surface and submarine flights to guarantee the safety of Pakistan sea borders. The loss of the planes could weaken the capacity of the Navy in actions against the terror activities across the sea. The US is supposed to provide two such planes by the end of the year according to earlier agreed schedule.

Yeah. It might prevent the Pakistani Navy from providing cover for terrorists trying to use the sea lanes to get into India, say, or move nuclear materials from Pakistan to somewhere they would like to use them. Not that I have any proof of anything like that going on. After all, Pakistan is our “ally” in this whole “so-called war on terror” thingie. Knock knock, wink wink, say no more say no more.

Personally, I like to see the old P-3’s being put to use since the idiots running NavAir have seen fit to ditch them in favor of a less-capable, more expensive platform( P-8, I’m looking at you), which is also in keeping with recent Navy ship productions like, say, LCS and DDG-1000.

If the Pakistanis had been a little more interested in actually securing their base, they might not be hitting us up for more assets. Let’s pray to all the Gods that they have better security on their nukes. I’ll admit not being terribly comfortable with that thought right now.

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8 Responses to “Pakistan Wants More Orions”


  1. 1 SCOTTtheBADGER
    May 24, 2011 at 14:33

    No, You didn’t take very good cafe of the last ones we gave you.

  2. 2 SCOTTtheBADGER
    May 24, 2011 at 14:33

    For cafe please read care.

  3. 3 AW1 Scott "Scooter Pie" Retired
    May 24, 2011 at 18:43

    Guess their crews weren’t blown up as well otherwise they might be telling us to send some “AW’s” to fill in the gap as well. I could see the current administration looking for retired AW’s to volunteer or be ordered to go. I may want to be back flying in the old and true P-3 but not for them. Maybe we could make out a little on our end by talking them into taking the less expensive and less ASW capable P-8’s instead of the P-3’s.

  4. 4 mark scease
    May 25, 2011 at 01:25

    I’m quessing they want us to pay for them. reminds me of advice I gave (unsolicted) to an ex girlfriend who was contemplating purchasing an expensive present for a fifteen year old nephew, ‘Never give a kid anything you wouldn’t be willing to burn, lose, or flush down the toilet”. Christ, I hope someone has their nuke storage sites dialed in and the fortitude to do the job.

    • May 25, 2011 at 02:17

      Either dialed in so we can secure them, or dialed in so we can nuke them if things go all to hell.

      And yeah, they want us to GIVE them the planes.

      And did you know we also GAVE them Harpoons to go with those P-3C’s? I kid you not.

  5. 6 mark scease
    May 25, 2011 at 03:06

    Ouch, I did mean dialed in as you mention. I heard one mention that the -3s were used for COIN which I can see as acceptable. I believe though that they are using them for sea control and flying top cover for transport of nukes by the baddies isn’t beyond belief. Paki is a true nightmare, necessary for logistics to Af, but not exactly a trusted partner by any means. I’ll have to amend my previous metaphor to read ‘wouldn’t particuraly mind being shot in the as with the hypothetical present”.

    • May 25, 2011 at 04:31

      What’s really bad is that a LOT of what’s going on in Pakistan isn’t much different than what we see happening in Mexico. Just replace the Taliban/AQ with drug cartels (and quite possible Quds Force, AQ, Hammas, etc) and we’ve got two failed states with serious potential for harm to these United States.

  6. 8 mark scease
    May 25, 2011 at 05:30

    I was thinking along the same line about Libya/Mexico/Syria today. I can see why we would back up our euro buddies there to the extant we have, but certainly our money could be spent closer to home. This whole global community is just not ready to happen. Europe bombs Libya to secure oil supplies, freaks out when the Arab Spring unleashes hordes of undesirables through the open border states, and we allow our lax laws to encourage drug gangs to not only murder but behead fairly innocent travels a few miles south of our southern border. A mess. And this is without touching on the AQ in the mideast or even the Taliban, which is where we began in the first place. The only thing that makes any sensse is paying off the Paki’s because somehow they have nukes and god forbid their opposition should take control PAL’s non withstanding. Ugh..


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